Don't know squawt! 1912 Military??

Ron Smith · 03-14-2004, 10:35 AM

Hey Guys,
Who knows the skinny on Gunsamerica #976443911. DWM 1912 Mil. 7.65 Para.? Does it sound good? No lug. I thought all militaries were
9mm. How about the price? Any info appreciated.

Ron

drbuster · 03-14-2004, 10:54 AM

Ron, 1912 Militaries did not have stock lugs. They started with late 1913 production. I looked at the single photo of this piece and you cannot tell if it is 7.65mm or not. I would ask the seller for more pictures. If it is 7.65mm, then it was reworked, possibly for export, after WW1. No factory original 1912 DWM's were in 7.65mm. At $800 asking price, it's not too bad of a deal, but I believe that most people would consider it a shooter.

Ron Smith · 03-14-2004, 11:06 AM

Herb,
I'm only interested in shooters. My budget won't withstand collectables. Could have sworn he indicated that it was a 7.65? Maybe I was looking at the 1920 above it!

Thanks!! Ron

Ron Smith · 03-14-2004, 11:12 AM

Herb,
Looked again. It clearly says "DWM 1912 Military in 7.65"
Ron

Dwight Gruber · 03-14-2004, 01:41 PM

Ron,

I suspect that if you are patient and look around you can find a suitable Luger to shoot for somewhat less than $800. If this gun really has been converted to .30 cal. I don't think it is a very good deal.

--Dwight

Frank · 03-14-2004, 04:51 PM

Ron, I'm with Dwight. I think a 9mm shooter makes more sense than a 30 Luger, unless you load your own ammo. Then it doesn't make that much difference! I'd look for a 9mm shooter!

Michigan Gunner · 03-14-2004, 06:56 PM

Ron, if you can afford a shooter, you can afford a collectable if you want to. It just takes a little more time to get it.

What seems high today, won't in five years. You might as well buy one that will be going up in value.

Enjoy!

Lock and Load!

policeluger · 03-14-2004, 07:37 PM

Ron, I know of a beat up but shooter DMW with holster and 1 matched clip and 1 poor forced match clip....I bougth it for trading stock but returned it as it was not the quality I want to deal in.....however for a good + bore and grips and perhaps in the furture to restore it might not be to bad...I just dind't want to walk around some gun show and hawk a gun of lesser quality. I am in no way invested in this gun and will only turn you on to the owner and let you two have at it, if you want.

Ron Smith · 03-14-2004, 11:54 PM

Hey guys thanks for the boost. I've had a couple of 30 Lugers in the past. I like the cartridge, and have reloaded it. More intrincically accurate than the 9mm, in my opinion.
Thanks for the info. Just was'nt sure about that luger. Did'nt smell right! But was'nt familiar with that variation.
Could'a been Kieser Wilhelms personal "pocket-pooper", ya never can tell!!
Thanks for the offer on the lead, but I'll probably pass.

Thanks guys!!

Lugerdoc · 03-15-2004, 11:11 AM

Ron, I you want a more collectable all matching 20 commerical in 7.65mm, I have a nice one available @$750 + S&h. Tom

03-14-2004, 10:35 AM	#1
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	Don't know squawt! 1912 Military?? Hey Guys, Who knows the skinny on Gunsamerica #976443911. DWM 1912 Mil. 7.65 Para.? Does it sound good? No lug. I thought all militaries were 9mm. How about the price? Any info appreciated. Ron __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

03-14-2004, 11:06 AM	#3
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	Herb, I'm only interested in shooters. My budget won't withstand collectables. Could have sworn he indicated that it was a 7.65? Maybe I was looking at the 1920 above it! Thanks!! Ron __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

03-14-2004, 11:12 AM	#4
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	Herb, Looked again. It clearly says "DWM 1912 Military in 7.65" Ron __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

03-15-2004, 11:11 AM	#10
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	Ron, I you want a more collectable all matching 20 commerical in 7.65mm, I have a nice one available @$750 + S&h. Tom __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 [email protected]

03-14-2004, 10:54 AM	#2
drbuster User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: San Mateo, California Posts: 1,432 Thanks: 2 Thanked 71 Times in 56 Posts	Ron, 1912 Militaries did not have stock lugs. They started with late 1913 production. I looked at the single photo of this piece and you cannot tell if it is 7.65mm or not. I would ask the seller for more pictures. If it is 7.65mm, then it was reworked, possibly for export, after WW1. No factory original 1912 DWM's were in 7.65mm. At $800 asking price, it's not too bad of a deal, but I believe that most people would consider it a shooter.

03-14-2004, 01:41 PM	#5
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,902 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,318 Times in 431 Posts	Ron, I suspect that if you are patient and look around you can find a suitable Luger to shoot for somewhat less than $800. If this gun really has been converted to .30 cal. I don't think it is a very good deal. --Dwight

03-14-2004, 04:51 PM	#6
Frank RIP Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hot & Dry PHX, AZ Posts: 2,078 Thanks: 24 Thanked 163 Times in 87 Posts	Ron, I'm with Dwight. I think a 9mm shooter makes more sense than a 30 Luger, unless you load your own ammo. Then it doesn't make that much difference! I'd look for a 9mm shooter!

03-14-2004, 06:56 PM	#7
Michigan Gunner User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Michigan, on the border Posts: 75 Thanks: 2 Thanked 15 Times in 9 Posts	Ron, if you can afford a shooter, you can afford a collectable if you want to. It just takes a little more time to get it. What seems high today, won't in five years. You might as well buy one that will be going up in value. Enjoy! Lock and Load!

03-14-2004, 07:37 PM	#8
policeluger RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ca. Posts: 2,141 Thanks: 8 Thanked 89 Times in 54 Posts	Ron, I know of a beat up but shooter DMW with holster and 1 matched clip and 1 poor forced match clip....I bougth it for trading stock but returned it as it was not the quality I want to deal in.....however for a good + bore and grips and perhaps in the furture to restore it might not be to bad...I just dind't want to walk around some gun show and hawk a gun of lesser quality. I am in no way invested in this gun and will only turn you on to the owner and let you two have at it, if you want.

03-14-2004, 11:54 PM	#9
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	Hey guys thanks for the boost. I've had a couple of 30 Lugers in the past. I like the cartridge, and have reloaded it. More intrincically accurate than the 9mm, in my opinion. Thanks for the info. Just was'nt sure about that luger. Did'nt smell right! But was'nt familiar with that variation. Could'a been Kieser Wilhelms personal "pocket-pooper", ya never can tell!! Thanks for the offer on the lead, but I'll probably pass. Thanks guys!! __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...