DWM 1918 Commercial?

Bob Kovacs · 08-19-2002, 10:47 AM

Hey guys, just got my second luger two days ago. Its a DWM chamber dated 1918/20. Can anyone tell me what this is? Is is a 1920 commercial model or what? Has new barrel but it seems to be in 9mm not 30 luger. Thanks Bob

Navy · 08-19-2002, 12:52 PM

You have a DWM military made in 1918 and property marked by the Reichwehr in 1920 as a piece of military property. It is not a commercial piece.

Hope this helps.

Tom A

kidvett · 08-19-2002, 01:46 PM

Hi Bob,

From the info you give it seems to be a Double Date ( 1918 over 1920 ) DWM. It is a Military piece that was reworked in 1920 ( Versaille Treaty ). Changed barrels are not uncommon as a lot of those guns shot corrosive ammo.

A Double Date is nice to have in a Weimar era collection.....Enjoy....

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Navy · 08-19-2002, 02:06 PM

The 1920 stamp does not necessarily equal a re-work. It does, however, necessarily mean that the piece was considered military property by the Reichswehr. It's significance is as a PROPERTY MARK, not a date. In fact, there are pieces that are documented as having the 1920 stamp applied as late as 1923 in efforts to fool the Ailied Control Commission.

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Thor · 08-19-2002, 02:20 PM

There is actually a 1918/20 marking in Weimar Lugers (page 82) That Luger also has the proper stamp too (1920). I have wondered the difference between the double dates 1920 over 1918 from the 1918/20. Constanzo says 1918/21 indicates a rework? Interesting topic for sure!

unspellable · 08-19-2002, 03:11 PM

While we are on this train of thought, what would you make of one with a 1920 where you expect to see it and the original date missing or ground off. (I've gotta get that out and look closer!)

George Anderson · 08-19-2002, 04:33 PM

I have a 1920 marked police with the earlier date of 1917 just barely visible where it was ground off. I've had a number of these in the past and may still have a Reichswehr marked thus.

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Bob Kovacs User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 26 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	DWM 1918 Commercial? Hey guys, just got my second luger two days ago. Its a DWM chamber dated 1918/20. Can anyone tell me what this is? Is is a 1920 commercial model or what? Has new barrel but it seems to be in 9mm not 30 luger. Thanks Bob

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Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	There is actually a 1918/20 marking in Weimar Lugers (page 82) That Luger also has the proper stamp too (1920). I have wondered the difference between the double dates 1920 over 1918 from the 1918/20. Constanzo says 1918/21 indicates a rework? Interesting topic for sure! __________________ Thor's Luger Clinic http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/ Ted Green (Thor Yaller Boots) 725 Western Hills Dr SE, Rio Rancho, NM 87124 915-526-8925 Email [email protected] ----------------------------------- John3:3 Jesus answered and said to him, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."

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Navy RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Dc 'burbs in Virginia Posts: 2,482 Thanks: 0 Thanked 16 Times in 10 Posts	You have a DWM military made in 1918 and property marked by the Reichwehr in 1920 as a piece of military property. It is not a commercial piece. Hope this helps. Tom A

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kidvett User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Montreal, Quebec Posts: 584 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Hi Bob, From the info you give it seems to be a Double Date ( 1918 over 1920 ) DWM. It is a Military piece that was reworked in 1920 ( Versaille Treaty ). Changed barrels are not uncommon as a lot of those guns shot corrosive ammo. A Double Date is nice to have in a Weimar era collection.....Enjoy.... kidvett [img]cool.gif[/img]

08-19-2002, 02:06 PM	#4
Navy RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Dc 'burbs in Virginia Posts: 2,482 Thanks: 0 Thanked 16 Times in 10 Posts	The 1920 stamp does not necessarily equal a re-work. It does, however, necessarily mean that the piece was considered military property by the Reichswehr. It's significance is as a PROPERTY MARK, not a date. In fact, there are pieces that are documented as having the 1920 stamp applied as late as 1923 in efforts to fool the Ailied Control Commission. Tom A <img src="graemlins/drink.gif" border="0" alt="[cherrsagai]" />

08-19-2002, 03:11 PM	#6
unspellable User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Iowa Posts: 768 Thanks: 0 Thanked 19 Times in 11 Posts	While we are on this train of thought, what would you make of one with a 1920 where you expect to see it and the original date missing or ground off. (I've gotta get that out and look closer!)

08-19-2002, 04:33 PM	#7
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,773 Thanked 2,529 Times in 787 Posts	I have a 1920 marked police with the earlier date of 1917 just barely visible where it was ground off. I've had a number of these in the past and may still have a Reichswehr marked thus.