A rare holster and an interesting visit

mauro · 01-03-2003, 04:58 PM

Dear friends,
I want to share with you two very exciting experiences I done in this vacation. First of all I bought a very interesting Turkish holster for LP08. As you know a few Lugers had been left behind in Turkey after 1918 by German military advisers. Of course these pistols were used by Turkish army. The testimonies of this employ are very rare. Two years ago a good French book showed this very rare LP08 holster. With this item, I really believe that the holster description in my LP08 book (available in April) is one of the most complete.

The second point is my visit to Mr. Regnier, a very important European collector. He lives in Swiss, one of the European country in which the law concerning gun is not strict at all.
I was very interesting in taking pictures for my book. Actually Mr. Regnier has in his collection the Borchard-Luger number 6, used in Swiss acceptance tests, one of rarest Luger. I am interested on this pistol because of, according with BobbaÃ¢??s book, the original configuration was with a 6Ã¢?Â barrel and a stock. The Swiss army was not interested in the utilisation of pistol-carbine so it was modified in the current configuration. In my book I have dedicated a chapter to the ancestor of LP08 and this prototype is the one of first example of pistol-carbine.

Mr. Regnier has also the only example of automatic LP08 available today. The LP08 prototype number 9. Of course this pistol is mandatory in a book related to Luger Arty.

Another interesting piece was Siam LP08. Unfortunately the stock serial number doesnÃ¢??t match with the pistol one.

A good way to start this new year.

Again an happy 2003.

Ciao

wterrell · 01-03-2003, 08:19 PM

mauro,
May we purchase a copy of your upcoming book in advance?
Also, please check your private messages.

Pete Ebbink · 01-03-2003, 11:18 PM

Hello Mauro,

Did you by chance take any photos of the Borchardt pistol ?

Regards,

Pete... <img src="graemlins/yltype.gif" border="0" alt="[typing]" />

Ron Wood · 01-04-2003, 12:12 AM

Pete,
The picture of the Borchardt-Luger serial #6 is in Bobba's book, or you can see it on Paul Regnier's website at www.regnier.ch/Default.htm

Big Norm · 01-04-2003, 08:32 AM

It looks like a very artistic website. Unfortunately, like most Americans, I don't understand foreign languages. I wonder is the book will be published in American English.
Big Norm

mauro · 01-04-2003, 05:02 PM

The book is written in Italian, my native language. In any case the book contains 150 high quality pictures. My understanding is that one picture is better that one hundred words. So all items (pistols, accessories...) are described with pictures. I believe that the book is friendly even if the reader is not able to understand completely the Italian. Of course if there is a particular topic that you want to underline we can analyse it in the forum.
Ciao

P.S. Any comment concerning the holster?

Edward Tinker · 01-09-2003, 01:43 PM

I think no one commented on the holster because it is so unusual!

It is so different from other LP08 holsters, that is for sure.

John Sabato · 01-09-2003, 02:39 PM

Auguri Mauro,

this is a very unusual artillery holster... much more crude than a standard issue holster for the LP08.

Is this holster designed for belt use? or is it designed for attachment to a shoulder stock like other artillery holsters?

Big Norm · 01-09-2003, 03:11 PM

It is unfortuate that Americans can not take advantage of the interesting books being published in Europe. A few years ago, I received a much cherished note from the great John Martz of Lincoln, California regarding a French book published by Mr. Gerald Henrotin's French version of "The Luger Book". Mr. Martz included in his note a photocopy of "Gazette des armes, number 262" that contained an application for the book. But I do not understand French so I did not apply.
I wonder why European publishers do not take advantage of the large American market and publish these books in American English? Americans have many excellent reference books on the Luger pistol but they are slowly becoming obsolete as more information is discovered regarding this weapon. It might also be interesting to see a different perspective and additional information as your post on the Turkish holster demonstates.
Big Norm

Navy · 01-09-2003, 04:13 PM

All,

Mr Joe Schroeder of Handgun Press often has copies of these wonderful European publications FS at the shows he attends; I suspect that if you contact him directly he may have some FS. After all, he is in the Gun Book bidnez.

Tom A.

mauro · 01-09-2003, 07:33 PM

Hi friends,
for John: the holster is designed only for belt use.

Concerning the book a good news. Yesterday I spoke with my publisher concerning a traslation in American-English.

In the book there are about 170 pictures one for page. We are traslating in American-English the caption related to each pictures. This is the maximum we can do within April. The book is based on the pictures (a picture is better than 100 words) so also USA people can better appreciate my book. I believe it is a good news.

In the future it is possible to foreseen a Acrobat Reader file with only the text traslation available on internet.

Thanks

Ciao

01-03-2003, 04:58 PM	#1
mauro FIREARM HISTORIAN AND AUT Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Belgium Posts: 1,535 Thanks: 106 Thanked 349 Times in 129 Posts	A rare holster and an interesting visit Dear friends, I want to share with you two very exciting experiences I done in this vacation. First of all I bought a very interesting Turkish holster for LP08. As you know a few Lugers had been left behind in Turkey after 1918 by German military advisers. Of course these pistols were used by Turkish army. The testimonies of this employ are very rare. Two years ago a good French book showed this very rare LP08 holster. With this item, I really believe that the holster description in my LP08 book (available in April) is one of the most complete. The second point is my visit to Mr. Regnier, a very important European collector. He lives in Swiss, one of the European country in which the law concerning gun is not strict at all. I was very interesting in taking pictures for my book. Actually Mr. Regnier has in his collection the Borchard-Luger number 6, used in Swiss acceptance tests, one of rarest Luger. I am interested on this pistol because of, according with BobbaÃ¢??s book, the original configuration was with a 6Ã¢?Â barrel and a stock. The Swiss army was not interested in the utilisation of pistol-carbine so it was modified in the current configuration. In my book I have dedicated a chapter to the ancestor of LP08 and this prototype is the one of first example of pistol-carbine. Mr. Regnier has also the only example of automatic LP08 available today. The LP08 prototype number 9. Of course this pistol is mandatory in a book related to Luger Arty. Another interesting piece was Siam LP08. Unfortunately the stock serial number doesnÃ¢??t match with the pistol one. A good way to start this new year. Again an happy 2003. Ciao __________________ Mauro Baudino - www.lugerlp08.com www.paul-mauser-archive.com Mauser Company and Firearm Historian - Mauser Parabellum Certification Service.

01-03-2003, 08:19 PM	#2
wterrell User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,096 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	mauro, May we purchase a copy of your upcoming book in advance? Also, please check your private messages. __________________ Noli me vocare, ego te vocabo, wes --------------------

01-04-2003, 12:12 AM	#4
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,022 Thanks: 1,090 Thanked 5,179 Times in 1,703 Posts	Pete, The picture of the Borchardt-Luger serial #6 is in Bobba's book, or you can see it on Paul Regnier's website at www.regnier.ch/Default.htm __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

01-09-2003, 01:43 PM	#7
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,935 Thanks: 2,034 Thanked 4,533 Times in 2,093 Posts	I think no one commented on the holster because it is so unusual! It is so different from other LP08 holsters, that is for sure. __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

01-09-2003, 02:39 PM	#8
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,154 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,306 Times in 1,097 Posts	Auguri Mauro, this is a very unusual artillery holster... much more crude than a standard issue holster for the LP08. Is this holster designed for belt use? or is it designed for attachment to a shoulder stock like other artillery holsters? __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

01-03-2003, 11:18 PM	#3
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Hello Mauro, Did you by chance take any photos of the Borchardt pistol ? Regards, Pete... <img src="graemlins/yltype.gif" border="0" alt="[typing]" />

01-04-2003, 08:32 AM	#5
Big Norm RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SE Michigan Posts: 1,864 Thanks: 1 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	It looks like a very artistic website. Unfortunately, like most Americans, I don't understand foreign languages. I wonder is the book will be published in American English. Big Norm

01-04-2003, 05:02 PM	#6
mauro FIREARM HISTORIAN AND AUT Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Belgium Posts: 1,535 Thanks: 106 Thanked 349 Times in 129 Posts	The book is written in Italian, my native language. In any case the book contains 150 high quality pictures. My understanding is that one picture is better that one hundred words. So all items (pistols, accessories...) are described with pictures. I believe that the book is friendly even if the reader is not able to understand completely the Italian. Of course if there is a particular topic that you want to underline we can analyse it in the forum. Ciao P.S. Any comment concerning the holster? __________________ Mauro Baudino - www.lugerlp08.com www.paul-mauser-archive.com Mauser Company and Firearm Historian - Mauser Parabellum Certification Service.

01-09-2003, 03:11 PM	#9
Big Norm RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SE Michigan Posts: 1,864 Thanks: 1 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	It is unfortuate that Americans can not take advantage of the interesting books being published in Europe. A few years ago, I received a much cherished note from the great John Martz of Lincoln, California regarding a French book published by Mr. Gerald Henrotin's French version of "The Luger Book". Mr. Martz included in his note a photocopy of "Gazette des armes, number 262" that contained an application for the book. But I do not understand French so I did not apply. I wonder why European publishers do not take advantage of the large American market and publish these books in American English? Americans have many excellent reference books on the Luger pistol but they are slowly becoming obsolete as more information is discovered regarding this weapon. It might also be interesting to see a different perspective and additional information as your post on the Turkish holster demonstates. Big Norm

01-09-2003, 04:13 PM	#10
Navy RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Dc 'burbs in Virginia Posts: 2,482 Thanks: 0 Thanked 16 Times in 10 Posts	All, Mr Joe Schroeder of Handgun Press often has copies of these wonderful European publications FS at the shows he attends; I suspect that if you contact him directly he may have some FS. After all, he is in the Gun Book bidnez. Tom A.

01-09-2003, 07:33 PM	#11
mauro FIREARM HISTORIAN AND AUT Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Belgium Posts: 1,535 Thanks: 106 Thanked 349 Times in 129 Posts	Hi friends, for John: the holster is designed only for belt use. Concerning the book a good news. Yesterday I spoke with my publisher concerning a traslation in American-English. In the book there are about 170 pictures one for page. We are traslating in American-English the caption related to each pictures. This is the maximum we can do within April. The book is based on the pictures (a picture is better than 100 words) so also USA people can better appreciate my book. I believe it is a good news. In the future it is possible to foreseen a Acrobat Reader file with only the text traslation available on internet. Thanks Ciao __________________ Mauro Baudino - www.lugerlp08.com www.paul-mauser-archive.com Mauser Company and Firearm Historian - Mauser Parabellum Certification Service.