A Little Show-Off Time...

Pete Ebbink · 02-21-2004, 12:56 PM

This is the first of my luger rigs that is nearly complete and worthy of showing all together...think I still need some boxes of period-correct ammo...

Luger is a M1929 red Bern, serial # 56777 (made in 1939)and holster is dated 1942.

Now I only have 25 or so other rigs to assemble...jeeze...

Regards,

Pete...

Doug G. · 02-21-2004, 02:43 PM

Pete, very nice!

Would be worth showing off even without the accessories. You still will need to acquire a dress dagger.

Thor · 02-21-2004, 03:02 PM

Pete! Aint that SWEET! Congrats!

Imperial Arms · 02-21-2004, 04:28 PM

Hey Pete,

Are you stealing my idea of creating sets? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

Congratulations on a nice set.

Cheers,
Albert

Lugers down under · 02-21-2004, 11:26 PM

Very nice display Pete, all that is missing is a "Alpenhorn" and a cow bell with an "edelweiss" painted on it. No.... I am teasing you!
I like your little cleaning kit. I have just purchase one the same on evilbay to go with my 1900 swiss. I paid $65.00 for it. I don't know if that was too much but I have never seen one here before although I do have another brass toolkit the same as comes in the kit.
I recently bid on a packet of ammo in a local auction which was described as "Ammo 30cal luger 24 rounds unopened packet" and when I picked it up it turned out to be an unopened packet of 30 cal Swiss ammo date 1905.
If I can find another I secure it for you.
Regards

Pete Ebbink · 02-21-2004, 11:36 PM

Hello Murray,

LF member, SwissDaggers, sells lots of very nice-condition luger accessories directly from Switzerland.

His web site link is :

http://www.swissdagger.com/index.html

Take a look in his "Misc. Accessories" section. His pricing is very fair and always better that e-Bay pricing...

He usually has a nice offering of Swiss holsters, but has sold out for the moment...

Regards,

Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

panda · 02-22-2004, 02:29 PM

Very nice luger Pete! And 2 fitting mags - very rare!

Though, I think I can see some non CH-army accessories :->.

Cheers, Panda

Pete Ebbink · 02-22-2004, 06:27 PM

Hello Panda,

Yes...you are absolutley correct.

The wooden handled screwdriver does not belong with a luger and the leather misc. pouch actually came with my M1882 revolver. And then I did say, previously, the metal take-down tool is probably spurious.

My M1929 Bern does not seem like it was shot very much at all. The bore has absolutely no wear at all. There is no "privatization" release stamping and there are 5-6 "dimples" of hardness testing on various parts of the receiver and frame and even on the triger. My guess is that this M1929 was not in service...just a WAG...

I do have a front sight adjusting tool and a Luthy muzzle cover that I forgot to include when I took the photo.

When I get some 7,65 swiss ammo and a nice dress dagger, I will shoot the rig again and will try not to forget these items...

<a href="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/29bern5_medium_copy1.jpg" target="_fullview"><img src="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/29bern5_medium_copy1.jpg" width="400" alt="Click for fullsize image" /></a>

Regards,

Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

the gunman · 02-23-2004, 01:51 PM

MAKES ONE DROOL PETE

Pete Ebbink · 02-23-2004, 11:27 PM

Hello Albert,

Although your web site and your rigs did motivate me, it wasn't until I saw Mr. John Eckert's luger collections at Tulsa did I get truly inspired...!!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" />

Regards,

Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

panda · 02-24-2004, 06:57 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Pete Ebbink:


My guess is that this M1929 was not in service...just a WAG...

<hr /></blockquote>Not necessarily, the absence of a "P" may mean that the gun was in service but never "privatised" because the person had to leave the army before term (in particular at an early stage which would explain the good condition of the gun) or just didn't want to keep it when he retired, so that it stayed in an arsenal until the army got rid of its stocks.

In any case, it's a very nice 06/29-1

Cheers, Panda

Pete Ebbink · 03-17-2004, 03:06 PM

Hello Panda,

You make a very good point. Is it well-known in CH that many such guns stayed in a military arsenal and then released without the P-stamping...?

Another WAG I had was that maybe the person in the service passed away and his surviving family did not turn in his sidearm. Then it was sold/exported later...? If a person passed away while still on active military duty, would the authorities come to his home to collect the weapons...?

Regards,

Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

Big Norm · 03-17-2004, 04:38 PM

BRAGGING IS FUN ISN'T IT! Personally, I love it when collectors do it. Nice Luger rig Pete. I'll give you $49.95 for it. (Hee! Hee!)
Big Norm

panda · 03-18-2004, 04:22 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />If a person passed away while still on active military duty, would the authorities come to his home to collect the weapons...?
[/QB]<hr /></blockquote>No because the family turns it in before the police has to come

. Unless of course there is no family to do it. In this case the authorities would come in any case.

Military guns are only issued to those who have regularly completed their military duty. Dying is not a regular way of completing military duty in Switzerland (only in ennemy armies

).

02-21-2004, 12:56 PM	#1
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	A Little Show-Off Time... This is the first of my luger rigs that is nearly complete and worthy of showing all together...think I still need some boxes of period-correct ammo... Luger is a M1929 red Bern, serial # 56777 (made in 1939)and holster is dated 1942. Now I only have 25 or so other rigs to assemble...jeeze... Regards, Pete... Last edited by Pete Ebbink; 12-29-2004 at 08:35 PM.

02-21-2004, 02:43 PM	#2
Doug G. User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Illinois Posts: 713 Thanks: 1 Thanked 53 Times in 17 Posts	Pete, very nice! Would be worth showing off even without the accessories. You still will need to acquire a dress dagger. __________________ Suppose you were an idiot.....and suppose you were a member of Congress.....But I repeat myself" ~~ Mark Twain

02-21-2004, 03:02 PM	#3
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	Pete! Aint that SWEET! Congrats! __________________ Thor's Luger Clinic http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/ Ted Green (Thor Yaller Boots) 725 Western Hills Dr SE, Rio Rancho, NM 87124 915-526-8925 Email [email protected] ----------------------------------- John3:3 Jesus answered and said to him, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."

02-21-2004, 11:26 PM	#5
Lugers down under User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Great Barrier Island, New Zealand Posts: 228 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts	Very nice display Pete, all that is missing is a "Alpenhorn" and a cow bell with an "edelweiss" painted on it. No.... I am teasing you! I like your little cleaning kit. I have just purchase one the same on evilbay to go with my 1900 swiss. I paid $65.00 for it. I don't know if that was too much but I have never seen one here before although I do have another brass toolkit the same as comes in the kit. I recently bid on a packet of ammo in a local auction which was described as "Ammo 30cal luger 24 rounds unopened packet" and when I picked it up it turned out to be an unopened packet of 30 cal Swiss ammo date 1905. If I can find another I secure it for you. Regards __________________ Lugers down under

02-24-2004, 06:57 AM	#11
panda User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 148 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Originally posted by Pete Ebbink: <strong> My guess is that this M1929 was not in service...just a WAG... </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Not necessarily, the absence of a "P" may mean that the gun was in service but never "privatised" because the person had to leave the army before term (in particular at an early stage which would explain the good condition of the gun) or just didn't want to keep it when he retired, so that it stayed in an arsenal until the army got rid of its stocks. In any case, it's a very nice 06/29-1 Cheers, Panda

02-21-2004, 04:28 PM	#4
Imperial Arms Banned Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Malta, EU Posts: 579 Thanks: 0 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts	Hey Pete, Are you stealing my idea of creating sets? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> Congratulations on a nice set. Cheers, Albert

02-21-2004, 11:36 PM	#6
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Hello Murray, LF member, SwissDaggers, sells lots of very nice-condition luger accessories directly from Switzerland. His web site link is : http://www.swissdagger.com/index.html Take a look in his "Misc. Accessories" section. His pricing is very fair and always better that e-Bay pricing... He usually has a nice offering of Swiss holsters, but has sold out for the moment... Regards, Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

02-22-2004, 02:29 PM	#7
panda User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 148 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Very nice luger Pete! And 2 fitting mags - very rare! Though, I think I can see some non CH-army accessories :->. Cheers, Panda

02-22-2004, 06:27 PM	#8
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Hello Panda, Yes...you are absolutley correct. The wooden handled screwdriver does not belong with a luger and the leather misc. pouch actually came with my M1882 revolver. And then I did say, previously, the metal take-down tool is probably spurious. My M1929 Bern does not seem like it was shot very much at all. The bore has absolutely no wear at all. There is no "privatization" release stamping and there are 5-6 "dimples" of hardness testing on various parts of the receiver and frame and even on the triger. My guess is that this M1929 was not in service...just a WAG... I do have a front sight adjusting tool and a Luthy muzzle cover that I forgot to include when I took the photo. When I get some 7,65 swiss ammo and a nice dress dagger, I will shoot the rig again and will try not to forget these items... <a href="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/29bern5_medium_copy1.jpg" target="_fullview"><img src="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/29bern5_medium_copy1.jpg" width="400" alt="Click for fullsize image" /></a> Regards, Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

02-23-2004, 01:51 PM	#9
the gunman User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Leland NC 28451 Posts: 1,017 Thanks: 1 Thanked 13 Times in 12 Posts	MAKES ONE DROOL PETE

02-23-2004, 11:27 PM	#10
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Hello Albert, Although your web site and your rigs did motivate me, it wasn't until I saw Mr. John Eckert's luger collections at Tulsa did I get truly inspired...!!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" /> Regards, Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

03-17-2004, 03:06 PM	#12
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Hello Panda, You make a very good point. Is it well-known in CH that many such guns stayed in a military arsenal and then released without the P-stamping...? Another WAG I had was that maybe the person in the service passed away and his surviving family did not turn in his sidearm. Then it was sold/exported later...? If a person passed away while still on active military duty, would the authorities come to his home to collect the weapons...? Regards, Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

03-17-2004, 04:38 PM	#13
Big Norm RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SE Michigan Posts: 1,864 Thanks: 1 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	BRAGGING IS FUN ISN'T IT! Personally, I love it when collectors do it. Nice Luger rig Pete. I'll give you $49.95 for it. (Hee! Hee!) Big Norm

03-18-2004, 04:22 AM	#14
panda User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 148 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">If a person passed away while still on active military duty, would the authorities come to his home to collect the weapons...? [/QB]</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">No because the family turns it in before the police has to come . Unless of course there is no family to do it. In this case the authorities would come in any case. Military guns are only issued to those who have regularly completed their military duty. Dying is not a regular way of completing military duty in Switzerland (only in ennemy armies ).