Luger Rifle

Brew_Ha_Ha · 01-26-2003, 07:22 PM

According to the 2002 Standard Catalog of Military Firearms,on page 135 they show a picture of a Luger Rifle auctioned in 1999 for $167,500. It says George Luger received his patent for this gun in 1906. I'm wondering if this was a one of a kind protype...or if some of these rifles found their way into the production line.

Edward Tinker · 01-26-2003, 11:05 PM

There was a discussion of this a couple of months ago, do a search for Luger rifle, I don't remember the specifics, I know several were made, I "think" production, but I forget

Ed

ViggoG · 01-27-2003, 02:01 AM

I seem to remember seeing one on a European Auction or a Collection Sale of some sort.
It also seems that a fairly large sum of money was placed on the rifle.
Can't place where or when, But I think that the rifle was reputed to have been used in the WW-1 youth rifle training program.
ViggoG

Imperial Arms · 01-27-2003, 02:21 AM

The Luger Rifle serial #4 came out of the Interarms (UK) Collection in 1996 and was auctioned by Christie's of London for $250k. I few year later, it was auctioned by Butterfields and it fetched around $150k.

Albert

Pete Ebbink · 01-27-2003, 12:37 PM

Hello Albert,

Are there any known photo(s) of this luger rifle, that could be posted here on the Luger Forum ?

Hello All,

Not related to the Luger rifle, but,...

Recall seeing a photo, in the V. Bobba swiss luger book, of a light machine gun the Swiss made in the 1940's at W+F Bern utitlizing the luger toggle mechanism...

Will look for this and scan it for posting, later this evening...

Added Text : There is a pretty good discussion about this Swiss toggle machine gun on the following site :

http://pub18.ezboard.com/ftheswissri...picID=28.topic

p.s. I love it that I do not get in trouble when I post such hot links... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

Regards,

Pete <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

Ron Wood · 01-27-2003, 01:22 PM

I hope Mr. Henrotin will not be offended if I post his rifle picture here since I have included his credit and link.

Edward Tinker · 01-27-2003, 01:26 PM

Here is the thread discussed earlier and I added the photos also:

http://forums.lugerforum.com/cgi-bin...=000085#000000

And here is the patent drawing from the Luger Book, a good book with nice pictures.

Rick W stated this:
I finally remembered this toggle actioned rifle, page 134 of Parabellum by Bobba. The caption under the picture calls it a sub-machine gun Furrer, designed in the 40's also for use on air-crafts.

Rick W.

Ed

Pete Ebbink · 01-27-2003, 06:06 PM

Hello Rick W. and Ed,

If you go to the hot link I listed in my previous thread, those knowledgable Swiss gun folks there point out that Bobba's photo and his text description are not correct (in relationship to each other...).

Thanks for posting the photos, especially the Luger rifle photos...

Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

01-26-2003, 07:22 PM	#1
Brew_Ha_Ha User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: NC Posts: 66 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Luger Rifle According to the 2002 Standard Catalog of Military Firearms,on page 135 they show a picture of a Luger Rifle auctioned in 1999 for $167,500. It says George Luger received his patent for this gun in 1906. I'm wondering if this was a one of a kind protype...or if some of these rifles found their way into the production line. __________________ Honesty is the best policy, but insanity is a better defense.

01-26-2003, 11:05 PM	#2
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,935 Thanks: 2,034 Thanked 4,533 Times in 2,093 Posts	There was a discussion of this a couple of months ago, do a search for Luger rifle, I don't remember the specifics, I know several were made, I "think" production, but I forget Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

01-27-2003, 01:22 PM	#6
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,022 Thanks: 1,090 Thanked 5,179 Times in 1,703 Posts	I hope Mr. Henrotin will not be offended if I post his rifle picture here since I have included his credit and link. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

01-27-2003, 01:26 PM	#7
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,935 Thanks: 2,034 Thanked 4,533 Times in 2,093 Posts	Here is the thread discussed earlier and I added the photos also: http://forums.lugerforum.com/cgi-bin...=000085#000000 And here is the patent drawing from the Luger Book, a good book with nice pictures. Rick W stated this: I finally remembered this toggle actioned rifle, page 134 of Parabellum by Bobba. The caption under the picture calls it a sub-machine gun Furrer, designed in the 40's also for use on air-crafts. Rick W. Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

01-27-2003, 02:01 AM	#3
ViggoG RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: South Side Virginia Posts: 534 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	I seem to remember seeing one on a European Auction or a Collection Sale of some sort. It also seems that a fairly large sum of money was placed on the rifle. Can't place where or when, But I think that the rifle was reputed to have been used in the WW-1 youth rifle training program. ViggoG

01-27-2003, 02:21 AM	#4
Imperial Arms Banned Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Malta, EU Posts: 579 Thanks: 0 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts	The Luger Rifle serial #4 came out of the Interarms (UK) Collection in 1996 and was auctioned by Christie's of London for $250k. I few year later, it was auctioned by Butterfields and it fetched around $150k. Albert

01-27-2003, 12:37 PM	#5
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Hello Albert, Are there any known photo(s) of this luger rifle, that could be posted here on the Luger Forum ? Hello All, Not related to the Luger rifle, but,... Recall seeing a photo, in the V. Bobba swiss luger book, of a light machine gun the Swiss made in the 1940's at W+F Bern utitlizing the luger toggle mechanism... Will look for this and scan it for posting, later this evening... Added Text : There is a pretty good discussion about this Swiss toggle machine gun on the following site : http://pub18.ezboard.com/ftheswissri...picID=28.topic p.s. I love it that I do not get in trouble when I post such hot links... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> Regards, Pete <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

01-27-2003, 06:06 PM	#8
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Hello Rick W. and Ed, If you go to the hot link I listed in my previous thread, those knowledgable Swiss gun folks there point out that Bobba's photo and his text description are not correct (in relationship to each other...). Thanks for posting the photos, especially the Luger rifle photos... Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />