1916-1920

vwcut · 09-11-2003, 02:37 AM

have a luger with 1916 -1920 sn is 8058 DWM has eagel
inside off grip metal is ground off could this luger
have been in ww1 then police service then back in ww2

Edward Tinker · 09-11-2003, 02:50 AM

Yes, this is very possible. But unless it has police markings, acceptance, sear or magazine safeties, then it is hard to prove it was a police.

Many WW1 guns saw weimar, than WW2 service, the 1916 is when it was first made, then the 1920 is the property marking of the Weimar gov't.

Can you tell us any markings on the gun?

Proofs? (see on your left under tech information if you came through www.lugerforum.com) Tell us what and where proofs and markings are located.

There are forms in this section, where you can print out and then write down pertinent information.

What serial number is on the gun? To include any letters next to or under the serial number?

Can you provide pictures, to include side, top, etc., ?

I collect the Weimar Police Lugers, so they interest me very much.

Ed

vwcut · 09-11-2003, 03:03 AM

the sn is 8058 it has no letters it has 3 crown like markings on right side also an eagel the side plate dose not matchi would send pictures if i could figuer it out

Edward Tinker · 09-11-2003, 03:08 AM

VW, if you have pictures on your computer, you can go to the help section;
http://forums.lugerforum.com/cgi-bin...;f=11;t=000072

and you can post the pictures yourself, or if there are just a couple of pictures, send them to me via e-mail.

ed

vwcut · 09-11-2003, 03:34 AM

policeluger · 09-11-2003, 11:02 AM

Lack of sear and or mag safety, and grip strap marking, this is not a police.

John Sabato · 09-11-2003, 12:44 PM

I concur, not a police Luger...

and the gap where the sideplate fits to the frame (looking from the top) doesn't seem to be very good... looks like it has been filed on the back side instead of being flush with the receiver...

policeluger · 09-11-2003, 08:03 PM

Could this be the trigger lever not fitted in place correctly?? Vwcut you need too look at fixing this

vwcut · 09-11-2003, 11:13 PM

I took the side plate off and removed the trigger and put it back. It goes in ok but the side plate doesn't fit snug against the top. Could it be warped? Remember this the one piece that doesn't match the gun. Could I buy a different side plate and fix the problem? Also when I had the toggle back I noticed the letter "w" on the inside of the part of the toggle that the rear sight is on. Maybe this can help to identify the luger. I am new at this as this is my first luger please bear with me. Thanks for your help, Mike

vwcut · 09-13-2003, 12:46 AM

dose anyone know if side plates are available to buy

mike

Edward Tinker · 09-13-2003, 05:06 AM

yes, you see them on e-bay and Tom Heller usually has some for sale, as does Jim E.

You can also check Sarco and some of the other parts guys in the links and resources section.

09-11-2003, 02:37 AM	#1
vwcut User Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 19 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	1916-1920 have a luger with 1916 -1920 sn is 8058 DWM has eagel inside off grip metal is ground off could this luger have been in ww1 then police service then back in ww2 __________________ vwcut

09-11-2003, 02:50 AM	#2
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,935 Thanks: 2,034 Thanked 4,533 Times in 2,093 Posts	Yes, this is very possible. But unless it has police markings, acceptance, sear or magazine safeties, then it is hard to prove it was a police. Many WW1 guns saw weimar, than WW2 service, the 1916 is when it was first made, then the 1920 is the property marking of the Weimar gov't. Can you tell us any markings on the gun? Proofs? (see on your left under tech information if you came through www.lugerforum.com) Tell us what and where proofs and markings are located. There are forms in this section, where you can print out and then write down pertinent information. What serial number is on the gun? To include any letters next to or under the serial number? Can you provide pictures, to include side, top, etc., ? I collect the Weimar Police Lugers, so they interest me very much. Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

09-11-2003, 03:03 AM	#3
vwcut User Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 19 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	the sn is 8058 it has no letters it has 3 crown like markings on right side also an eagel the side plate dose not matchi would send pictures if i could figuer it out __________________ vwcut

09-11-2003, 03:08 AM	#4
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,935 Thanks: 2,034 Thanked 4,533 Times in 2,093 Posts	VW, if you have pictures on your computer, you can go to the help section; http://forums.lugerforum.com/cgi-bin...;f=11;t=000072 and you can post the pictures yourself, or if there are just a couple of pictures, send them to me via e-mail. ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

09-11-2003, 03:34 AM	#5
vwcut User Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 19 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	__________________ vwcut

09-11-2003, 11:02 AM	#6
policeluger RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ca. Posts: 2,141 Thanks: 8 Thanked 89 Times in 54 Posts	Lack of sear and or mag safety, and grip strap marking, this is not a police.

09-11-2003, 12:44 PM	#7
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,154 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,306 Times in 1,097 Posts	I concur, not a police Luger... and the gap where the sideplate fits to the frame (looking from the top) doesn't seem to be very good... looks like it has been filed on the back side instead of being flush with the receiver... __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

09-11-2003, 08:03 PM	#8
policeluger RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ca. Posts: 2,141 Thanks: 8 Thanked 89 Times in 54 Posts	Could this be the trigger lever not fitted in place correctly?? Vwcut you need too look at fixing this

09-11-2003, 11:13 PM	#9
vwcut User Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 19 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I took the side plate off and removed the trigger and put it back. It goes in ok but the side plate doesn't fit snug against the top. Could it be warped? Remember this the one piece that doesn't match the gun. Could I buy a different side plate and fix the problem? Also when I had the toggle back I noticed the letter "w" on the inside of the part of the toggle that the rear sight is on. Maybe this can help to identify the luger. I am new at this as this is my first luger please bear with me. Thanks for your help, Mike __________________ vwcut

09-13-2003, 12:46 AM	#10
vwcut User Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 19 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	dose anyone know if side plates are available to buy mike __________________ vwcut

09-13-2003, 05:06 AM	#11
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,935 Thanks: 2,034 Thanked 4,533 Times in 2,093 Posts	yes, you see them on e-bay and Tom Heller usually has some for sale, as does Jim E. You can also check Sarco and some of the other parts guys in the links and resources section. __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV