researching a luger

[research]

Originally Posted by mrerick

The stock attachment design for all the Lugers is basically the same. There are minor variations, but the Navy stocks would fit Artillery Lugers and visa-versa - it would just not be a GCA firearm at that point.

There was always a certain extent of hand fitting needed to get the stock attachment fit right. This is one reason that the stocks were originally numbered to the guns.

I unfortunately can't make out markings in your stock photos. If you can, try and take the pictures in shaded natural light using a tripod to eliminate camera shake, and the closeup setting on the camera to get sharp focus of any marking details. The self-timer will fire the camera without causing camera shake. Don't use flash.

Marc

I cannot make out any markings on stock (wood)at all. only the one on metal attachment.

[research]

Originally Posted by DonVoigt

I want to think I can see the remnants of the Crown over Script S on your stock; the iron looks good.

What it looks like if strongly impressed is below; with a much weaker impression below it.

I do believe your stock is an original
German military artillery stock.

I don't know. I sure can't see it. I guess I'll have to find someone who knows what to look for, to take a close look , just to make sure. or maybe a magnifying glass.

again appreciate the help.

[Norme]

Hi Chris, I'm pretty sure your stock is a late war unissued Artillery as there are no signs that the leather straps were ever attached. This might also explain the missing inspection mark. Many late war Navy stocks are missing one or both of their inspection marks also.
Your stock would pair well with a 1918 Artillery should you decide to sell it.
Regards, Norm

[DonVoigt]

Originally Posted by research

I don't know. I sure can't see it. I guess I'll have to find someone who knows what to look for, to take a close look , just to make sure. or maybe a magnifying glass.

again appreciate the help.

A glass would definitely help, as will tilting and looking from different angles.

Norm mentions it may be an un-issued or just unmarked stock;
I'd agree except for the numbered iron; of course irons can be swapped from one stock to another.

[research]

Originally Posted by DonVoigt

A glass would definitely help, as will tilting and looking from different angles.

Norm mentions it may be an un-issued or just unmarked stock;
I'd agree except for the numbered iron; of course irons can be swapped from one stock to another.

from what you've seen. what would be your best guestimate as to worth?

[research]

Originally Posted by DonVoigt

A glass would definitely help, as will tilting and looking from different angles.

Norm mentions it may be an un-issued or just unmarked stock;
I'd agree except for the numbered iron; of course irons can be swapped from one stock to another.

from what you've seen. what would be your best guestimate as to worth?I realize it would merely be speculation until one saw it firsthand.

[Edward Tinker]

I read about half of this.

First, the anxiousness I hear about the stock and the pistol is always a bit funny. It IS true you can get into trouble putting a 4 inch barrel to an artillery stock. I can't see how anyone would get into trouble owning both, and not owning an artillery luger. Come on folks, give a warning that a 4 inch is not legal - although to be honest, if you read the various BATF luger and stock combinations it is pretty crazy.

SO, DON'T PUT A STOCK ONTO A 4 INCH (OR 3/58) LUGER

However what is confusing is that an;

Artillery Luger is legal with an artillery stock
Navy is legal with a Navy stock
A Finnish Luger is legal with a stock (this is where it is not very precise)
In addition, an Ideal stock can be fitted to an American eagle Luger or a Breinkee (mispelled I know)
Carbine stocks can be put onto carbines

So, cut the guy a break for owning a 4 inch luger and an artillery stock, when his Grandfather shot it, it was legal...

[Norme]

Hi Chris, The serial number on the stock iron (29e if I'm not mistaken) identifies it as one of the last produced before the end of hostilities in Nov 1918. This would explain the missing inspection mark and the fact that it didn't see service.
I'm reluctant to value it however, as some collectors might regard it's virginity as an asset, others as a liability (I'm in the latter group). Maybe someone else will pitch in.
Regards, Norm

[Edward Tinker]

Originally Posted by research

from what you've seen. what would be your best guestimate as to worth?I realize it would merely be speculation until one saw it firsthand.

In My Humble Opinion

A post-war (60's-70's) is worth $150-$200
A commercial one (post WW1 - pre-WW2) is worth about $500-$700
A WW1 is worth from $500-$1200

It can really vary, and I'll let others guess

Ed

[lugerholsterrepair]

I realize it would merely be speculation until one saw it firsthand. Not really. 1918 stocks do not have the Crown S as they were made during the WW1 conflict but were never accepted by the Military. Quite often I have seen them where they are not fitted to the pistol they are numbered for either. Yours has likely been fitted though as it fits a pistol you have..Artillery stocks once fitted will fit about half the pistols you try it on. Not all of them though.

Most collectors like to see the Crown S acceptance stamp. They mostly pay less when there isn't one. Or pay more for the rare Crown G. All this being the case I suspect your stock might bring $550-650 or so if offered on eBay. Then eBay is going to slice off the top including shipping 15-20% This market fluctuates slightly month to month. But that's just an educated guess.

[research]

wow . who'd have thought. thanks for the answers guys.